• spectrums_coherence@piefed.social
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    Suppose we had a library filled with proofs of every theorem [in mathematics], as well as excellent guides that could, given a question, take us to the answer and explain it. What would a mathematician do in such a library?

    If you ask the question this way, the answer becomes clear: they would be unbelievably excited, and immediately get to work. They would immediately start asking questions: how does one prove the Riemann hypothesis? The Hodge conjecture? Their own pet obsession (in my case, the Grothendieck-Katz p-curvature conjecture)? Then they would work until they understood the answer. The job would not be done, not even close.

    This paragraph by Daniel Litt feels to me like hubris coming from someone in the position of power. Many tech-optimistic mathematician are not at the risk of being replaced by AI because they are either on the tenure track or already tenured.

    We need to acknowledge that mathematics is a subject of more human importance than economical importance. In this hyper profit driven world, field without a primary economical drive will necessarily shrink significantly.

    Mathematics have no doubt experienced that: in the cold war, mathematics is behind most of the technological advancement that lead to concrete economical output. Later, as many of these fields stablized, engineer and computer scientists takes the place of mathematician, and the field of mathematics has shrunk significantly.

    Now mathematics still holds importance because it still encapsulate important ideas that have the potential to be the next generation of economical driver force. And mathematicians are important drivers to preserve and disseminate such knowledge.

    So if such truth oracle described above can develop and articulate any mathematical idea, it would be fun for established mathematician to flip through the answer to a puzzle, but it would kill the entirety of mathematics as well.

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    24 hours ago

    They should be worried! Just like how the calculator replaced them!

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      21 hours ago

      There is already no need for mathematicians, I can perfectly well make any square root on my calculator. 🤣

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    21 hours ago

    AI won’t replace mathematicians. But AI may replace their grad students, when the Computer Science department shows how much more “work” the Al can do and steals funding from the Mathematics department.

    Then, when the current Math faculty retires, there won’t be any new Mathematicians to take their place.

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    24 hours ago

    Keep in mind that quite a number of those AI based “breakthroughs” in mathematics turned out to be wrong.

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    21 hours ago

    Absolutely no way.
    Even if AI can make mathematical breakthroughs as in evidence of hard to solve problems. We still need mathematicians to clear it as valid.

    I imagine AI might actually sharpen the understanding among real mathematicians.
    AI didn’t make Chess or Go obsolete either.

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      We don’t need mathematicians to clear the proof as valid if it is checked by a formal proof system. Mathematicians would only need to check the theorem itself to make sure it describes what it should describe.

      I think chess and go are a bad comparison. Their solving does not conclude in some societal use. They are interesting only as problems, but mathematics is interesting as a solution too.

  • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zip
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    22 hours ago

    Nobody wants to become solely a proofreader and bullshit detector for AI, in þe off-chance it stumbles on a genuine proof. Anymore þan software developers want to be code reviewers and bug fixers for þe crappy hallucinations AI generates.