One question directly invokes Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s demand that allies stay “strong, clear, and quiet” in alignment with U.S. interests.
Everyone can see what works best for healthcare, work/life balance and quality of life. It’s not what russia, argentina and maga is doing. More restrictions and harshness is the opposite of what successful countries do and it’s obvious in data, but all these people keep going for the right wing propaganda and ignore the data on how to make a healthy civilization. More of the controlling, just obey us, keep people in scarcity and stress so they don’t realize how much the system screws them over and reject it for what’s healthier for humanity,
braise him. to an internal temperature of at least 165°f to ensure no bacteria survives
For safe consumption, Nazis should be cooked to an internal temperature of 1488°F. It’s what they would’ve wanted
He’ll even bring his own mega Dutch oven to do it in. The white house
Oh shit, wrong kind of Dutch oven
did he just quiet piggy our allies? I mean they were are allies anyway before he started calling them piggy.
so he’s just openly running a racketeering ring now and nato has its thumbs up its butt?
Chumpy McChumpface cannot be satisfied so trump him.
Hey so, I serve in a NATO military. Here is my statement:
Fuck Trump, fuck anyone that supports him and fuck those that allowed the USA to get this shite. Any American that opposes him, I will buy you a drink.
Huzzah!! 🍻
Not even a big drinker, but if we could, it would mean our borders weren’t so terrifying, and maybe we were a free people.
Here’s to the dream, brother.
And thank you for your service…in opposition to petty, worthless mobster tyrants like ours.
My lord Trump, you wear the biggest of diapers and your shits are the smelliest in the whole entire world!
This is a perfect example of conservative MAGA values. They want a heirarchy system where the chosen people at the top are given special privileges and are effectively above the law. This is what .makes MAGA so foreign and hard to understand for so many people.
Know your enemy.
NATO is weaker with America in it. It is best if they kick out America and continue on, sooner than later. America is just gonna backstab NATO before Trump’s term runs dry, assuming he doesn’t kick off an 2nd American War.
In the case of a civil war, NATO would probably support the ReUnion against the Neo Confederates. Because, bluntly, an Dogey America is simply evil and cannot be ever be a good partner for any decent nation. Putting down a rabid dog would be prudent, rather than letting it wander free to bite nations at random.
You mean the country that has pissed away all of its weaponry and is currently losing a war of choice against an enemy that is, generously speaking, a 10th of its strength?
Yeah, NATO’s gonna be sad to lose it.
Ah yes, the hallmark of sophisticated management: everyone has to express an appropriate level of support for all decisions, especially bad ones.
Fuck off and die you fat megalomniac pedophile rapist cunt. The united snakes can suck cock in Hell.
This reads like poetry The kind of visceral anger that I wish the American people would unify and express against their own leadership
Their press meetings should be so constantly full of this kinda speech they can’t even manage to get through a simple briefing.
“Okay, Q&A…”
“Thank you. Mr. President are you even sorry for all the innocent people you’ve personally or impersonally murdered?”
“ARREST THEM. NEXT? YOU IN THE BACK!”
“Yes, thank you. Associated Press. Anyway, you gonna kill yourself in a bunker anytime soon you rapist piece of shit?”
“GUARDS! we have time for ONE MORE…about the excellent new ballroom or something…”
“Hello, yes… where’d your mother go wrong and would you consider yourself your joke of a family’s biglyest mistake?”
As an American….that’s fair.
Please await our return to normalcy, which I dearly hope is soon.
normalcy You mean like manufacturing fake evidence for WMD so we can go to war with Iraq. A war in which only only did we lose thousands of Americans we also killed around 500,000 Iraqs. We could pack a stadium with the dead children we killed alone.
We have always been the bad guys.
So what are you doing about it; nothing just like the rest of you americans.
At this point in any other country there would be 100k people in front of the White House every day until the government collapses but in the US people are just living their normal lives in an abnormal time taking it like lemmings and whinning like children.
You are responsible for the world econmomy collapsing when it does, just remember that; the world won’t forget.
for what? 4? maybe 8 years? and then you’re all right back on the right wing agenda? Reagan, Bush, Bush Jr, Trump, whose next?
for years, decades even the rest of us have simply tolerated you. never really trusted you, mocked you behind your backs, but we generally kept quiet about it. now? now we’re no longer hiding our opinions of you. and those opinions have always been there so things aren’t going to change for you on the world stage, ever.
How can we trust you? you elected this clown twice. you elected Bush Jr twice. “Please wait our return to normalcy”? how can we await your return for something you never had.
American Exceptionalism == Main Character Syndrome
This is normal for you. You elected him twice. You elected bush twice. This is American trajectory.
A country which is prone to start backstabbing, blackmailing and threatening their allies every 4 years isn’t normal per se. The USA will never regain my trust (and i believe i am in the majority of europeans here) until they fix their shit for good, which i will probably not live to see; half of US-americans active voters chose this shitshow for a second time, which means they love the taste of leather combat boots (Nazi style).
1 in 3 still love in now with citizens shot in the street and concentration camps being built. They are nazis.
Ain’t nobody waiting for nothing.
I don’t think you’ll ever regain the trust guys gave up so willingly when you elected the worst human ever. Fucking twice even. The trust is gone and your former allies just want you guys to shut up and go away.
You should know that USA wasn’t even near normal under Obama. Spying on allies, and thousands killed in illegal drone attacks is not normal.
I don’t trust USA to return to normal anytime soon. American exceptionalism isn’t an exclusive Republican thing.
But closer to normal would still be preferable.Spying on allies
Anyone who knows anything about history and politics should understand that everybody spies on everybody and that’s fine because knowing what other countries are up to is how you avoid war. Countries trust their allies because their spies help them KNOW that they can trust them. As soon as spies are taken out of the equation, everybody starts getting WAY more paranoid about what other countries are up to, and that’s how you get pointless wars. Sometimes, foreign spies even HELP a country, because they can sometimes catch things that domestic intelligence misses, like “hey, such-and-such foreign nation has infiltrated your such-and-such government agency; you might wanna do something about that. How did we get this info? Trade secret. But you’re welcome”.
Spying ON ITS OWN is almost utterly benign. It’s certainly better than the alternative. Expecting humans to not be nosy about what their neighbors are up to is just asking for disappointment. Nosiness is an inevitable fact of life. Sure, if you CATCH a spy, you eject them. But it’s naive to be offended by the attempt.
Wrong, spying used to be MOSTLY a wartime thing you did against enemies.
USA changed that after WW2, and most countries followed. Because now apparently everyone is an enemy, and no one can be trusted.Spying ON ITS OWN is almost utterly benign
That’s completely bullshit, it is absolutely not benign that USA is spying on allies, they are trying to use it to undermine their political views.
Wrong, spying used to be a wartime thing you did against enemies.
Do you really believe that?
Also:
they are truing to use it to undermine their political views.
That’s not “spying on its own” anymore, though, is it?
It’s a fact, look it up.
I looked it up. I didn’t put a ton of effort into it, but I found some things.
First link I found was this one, https://www.mi5.gov.uk/history/between-the-wars/the-inter-war-years, talking about spying going on between WW1 and WW2.
British intelligence service was started in 1909. They weren’t at war, but they were concerned about spying, German spies in particular:
Wow were you born yesterday? You think espionage is a thing the US invented after WW2? Lmao.
Your reading comprehension is very low.
Oh my reading comprehension is perfectly fine. Your statement is just extraordinarily untrue and ridiculous.
Please await our return to normalcy, which I dearly hope is soon.
americans are something else… Do you honestly believe things will just go back to normal, no harm done, as soon as your twice elected monster kicks the bucket? Really??
No, no! You don’t get it!
So many people didn’t vote! This isn’t who we are! Rabble rabble rabble!
In all seriousness though… Americans are right now like a patient bleeding out where the shock has set in and they are no longer capable of realizing the wound is fatal. I got out, so I can afford to look at it objectively, but millions of people are either trapped or hoped things wouldn’t get so bad that they’d have to inconvenience their personal lives, and both of those groups psychologically maintain the illusion that things can go back because the alternative is being completely overwhelmed and breaking down, so I DO understand where the denial is coming from. It’s not legitimate hope for restoration - it’s psychological delusion as existential defense.
I’m still stuck inside and the amount of people doing the ostrich head in the sand thing is un-fucking-real, got told by a former friend just this last week that they were just trying to “live their life” and couldn’t handle all the negativity.
I don’t even know what to say to that
Narrator: It wasn’t
We haven’t been normal since at least the 90s.
When Reagan’s policies sunk in.
The rest of NATO really needs to form an inner circle that excludes America. We’re a massive liability to the organization.
They could call the select group “NATO Gold”. Being excluded from a select organization that has the word ‘gold’ in its name would really piss Trump off.
I don’t think they see much strategic purpose in pissing Trump off :p
You think they don’t already?
The difference is that it doesn’t have a big flashy public name. It will be an informal network of diplomats and knowledgeable command staff.
Didn’t we already do that, I remember there being a secret meeting of the leaders of most European countries that the US wasn’t invited to, where they supposedly discussed future defense as the US grows unreliable
Not only outside of NATO, but also inside the other countries are starting to fill the vacuum left by the US. The importance of the US to NATO has severely diminished in the past 2 years and this process is accelerating. I have even heard rumblings of the US getting kicked out (eventually) of NATO if they continue being unreliable. At a minimum there is a serious realignment ongoing.
But yes, post-NATO security frameworks are being openly and secretly discussed in Europe and with its democratic non-US allies.
It’s on purpose at this point. I’m fairly certain one of the aims of the heritage foundation is to turn the U.S. into a technofeudal state with billionaires running everything. And if the U.S. breaks up Balkan style, even better.
Yeah, but they keep it quiet. The fastest Trump retreats the harder it is to switch so they’ll send in Rutte for some serious brown-nosing while buying, producing and setting up their own non US weapons and systems. Besides, everybody could see very well how much USA’s protection is worth in the Straight of Hormuz. Meanwhile Trump starts to notice how much he gets done without allies.
Yeah but then he’ll want back in and the cycle starts again :-(
NATO gold is reserved for the united states only, with trump as chief senior executive top general. No one else can attend those meetings
Everyone else gets put in NATO brass, and they need to meet regularly to show that they are on board with this new system.
Trump loves to bully America’s allies.
The increase in defence spending makes sense since the work is a less safe place since Diaper Donny entered politics. However nothing says you have to or should buy US weapons.
Nothing would sting US arms manufactures more than Trump’s policies pushing all the customers away.
