Its just so hard not to with the ones like that I get great joy out of seeing the anger and them not being able to tattle to the mods to get me banned for “imperialism” so they have no choice but to tell you to go back to reddit and call you a dork and cry about it.

I’m of course banned from their echo chamber because the cow one tried showing a chart of how there’s no hunger in North Korea and got pissed when I pointed out that the North Korean government doesn’t even provide that data publicly and that it was “not really about telling the truth” when someone picks and presents false data like that to spread a false narrative. They reported me and got me banned for “imperialism”.

It is funny too because they let you talk riiiight up until the point where you can prove them absolutely wrong with multiple sources some even from the very government they’re fan girling over and then they immediately report and ban you and delete all the comments you made.

Can’t have people seeing another narrative in my echo chamber!

So when I see them out in the wild where they can’t have complete and total control over the narrative silencing any and all proof against their ludicrous claims it is just so hard to leave it alone.

Its like “haha yeah I can share all the data and graphs I want and you can cry harder about it. Can’t delete these comments biiiiiitttttttttccccccchhhhhh”

It is childish a little I will admit that but man I just can’t stand stupid people. Especially loud stupid people. And even more stupid people that can’t let anyone else talk without silencing them and erasing all narratives that say otherwise.

They would definitely be down down for burning books I bet that’s the type of vibe I get from them all.

That’s fair actually and does make sense.

I’m shocked you got them to admit any deaths at all. Used to they wouldn’t do that.

I guess the mask is slowly falling off they have to admit some of the shit here and there now or else they’d lose credibility completely.

That’s a good example of the entire instance and users on it though. “Well it wasn’t in the square” lol ok, but they still murdered a bunch of people for protesting.

Its like they have a fundamental need to be “right” no matter what. “There is no Tianamen Square massacre because it didn’t happen in the square. So HA. All those murders inches away from the square were because they deserved it for illegally protesting!”

Also I think its wild that on their instance they all have their pronouns listed when China is pretty notoriously anti LGBTQ.

From Wikipedia (which I’m surprised they used as a source earlier, you try doing that on their own instance with anything that goes against their narrative and you will be perma banned for “imperialism”)

"LGBTQ venues and events have been forced to shut and LGBTQ rights activists have become subject to greater scrutiny by the country’s system of mass surveillance. The CCP increasingly considers LGBTQ advocacy the work of “foreign forces”. LGBTQ content is censored. "

They should all move to that utopia that is China but I’ll bet you all of them live in capitalist countries. (Which is fucking hilarious) Meanwhile here (which is also not a great place at all but I’m allowed to be honest about that) you can adopt kids and marry if you’re gay. Two things that are illegal in China.

Vehemently defending a country that hates you for existing has to be some form of self hate or something. Its hard to understand the logic of it.

Kisses.

Don’t worry baby, I’m not going anywhere. I’m always gonna be here for you.

Your entire instance is. Also you seem to think I’m the OP of this post? I haven’t blocked anyone except for one user and it was because of cartoon CP they posted in the self hosted community.

I think its fun watching idiots try to make sense about the world its like going to the zoo or something. Gives the federation experience some flair.

You missed the part about where he said it was one of the greatest countries on earth? What is a utopia? A utopia is an imagined community or society that possesses highly desirable or near-perfect qualities for its residents

Would being “one of the best countries on earth” not be saying its utopia like. Sure they didn’t say the exact phrase utopia they did say that North Korea is one of the best countries in the world though.

Is that dishonest? Or are you just not capable of understanding things you don’t like?

You’re an idiot who is incapable of admitting when they are wrong. And this is how all of you are over there.

Also I don’t use reddit and haven’t in over 8 years.

I know how it works because here (on this instance) you can’t just ban folks for “imperialism” when they prove you wrong you have to be forced to actually deal with it and cry.

That’s why I suggested to go back to your comfortable echo chamber where you might have an easier time not having to see different opinions. This must be a horrible experience for you out here.

I noticed in that other thread when I proved your ass wrong about the bullshit your instance spreads you didn’t have anything to say huh? I’m shocked I tell you. Shocked.

If its hard to tell a cat what to eat then put a bowl of some regular cat food out and put a bowl of the vegetarian stuff and see which one they pick. One or two days maybe they will take the vegan stuff but after that its not going to happen because their natural instincts and anatomy will prevail.

An obligate carnivore is an animal that cannot get all the nutrients it needs from plant matter and bacteria, so it requires nutrients found only in animal flesh. And veterinarians classify cats as obligate carnivores so I’m not sure why you think people are idiots for pointing that out.

I noticed you said the cat would go eat mice and bugs pretty much further reinforcing that they are carnivores and not vegan. I really hope you don’t have a cat

Humans have raised livestock for around 11000 years and most estimates place cat domestication at around 2000 with even the oldest most generous estimates placing it at 9500 so yes it is a natural part of humanity and domestication.

Animals eat other animals. Has been that way since the beginning of life.

Feeding your carnivorous animal tofu and vegetable blends with no meat ever even when medical animal doctors tell you that’s stupid and killing the animal isnt natural at all. And that’s probably only existed for about as long as the disease of social media has.

You should never force an animal to eat a diet its evolution has ruled out. The people that do this think they know best and none of them are veterinarians they are just crazy people who want to force their beliefs on all living things whether it kills them or not. Because killing the animals is super bad unless its by starvation of the nutrients their body needs and then its ok, I guess?

Also you said “and the admins sided with the idiots” when bringing this up implying that people who think cats should eat what they have always eaten are idiots and not the ones who will force their diet on any living thing, killing them be damned! Those people that would force their beliefs on living things even when it kills them are abusive idiots in my opinion and I hope their cats run away from them and go eat birds and shit to get their strength back.

There’s hiveminds and then there’s “hey evolution and modern science combined both can tell you this is a bad idea and going to kill this animal”. Pointing that out doesn’t make them a hivemind.

Go back to lemmy.ml

Also, which part isn’t sane?

You’re saying their are governments you should trust 100% about everything?

Or that you disagree with him when he says he doesn’t think the countries China and Russia are targeting Lemmy?

Because if you believe either that’s actually insane.

More likely you got butthurt because he said all you crazy fucks got banned from other public spaces so naturally congregated to one that only bans people that disagree with you.

Hey bud, what are these?

https://lemmy.zip/post/67679872

https://lemmy.zip/post/66807069

https://lemmy.zip/post/65520813

Verbatim “one of these is a cancer that needs cut out and the other is the DPRK”

This is one example.

This is why people don’t like you guys, you’re not honest with yourselves or others.

Granted I was being a little hyperbolic but this person has actually said that North Korea is one of the best countries on earth and that everything we hear and say about it is a lie.

I notice they never post from “best Korea” though. Hmmm

Edit: Awww, did I hurt your feelings by proving you wrong that now you have to post under other comments of mine telling me to go back to reddit? That’s cute sweetheart. It sucks to be in a place you can’t silence people and ban them on huh?

They will tell you that this is because you’re brainwashed by your evil imperialist country that it blinds you into believing that the whole world is bad like they are.

I know its fucking ridiculous but I swear to god I have seen them say that before.

You’re right though anyone I know from USA on here will be very quick to tell you how fucked up it is we are supporting Israel and how fucked up slavery was and how fucked up what we did to the Native Americans was

I’ve never seen a single one of the “tankies” (that you would recognize by name for their pro NK stances and whatnot) ever admit to any wrongdoing by any of the countries they glorify. Not a single fucking one.

The Soviet Famine, the “Arduous March”, the " great leap forward" (Mao killed the most people in history more than the Nazi Holocaust, the Stalin Famine, the arduous march, Khmer Rogue etc.) They don’t ever have anything negative to say about those things. It was all external factors, weather, and misinformation by the west!

And that is why no one other then them and their devoted followers will ever listen to them. If they are incapable of admitting those things are wrong they are incapable of speaking the truth.

I won’t block anyone even if their straight up assholes because even a broken clock is right twice a day and I actually have learned some information that was true from them.

That being said though the ones who say North Korea is a utopia and USA is fighting a proxy war with Russia through Ukraine (true) but that Russia giving drones and military equipment to Iran isn’t the same thing and that isn’t a proxy war or that Mao was some sort hero of the people (I could definitely go on from here) those people are idiots and its very easy to look up anything they say and see that its complete bullshit.

I’m still not gonna block them. Hit them with an “Ok” and move on with your day. As soon as you pull out the graphs or cite multiple sources they will just ban you so there’s no point in fucking with them. Until they post on here from North Korea and prove us all wrong, you can easily disregard any of the bullshit they say.

That said the ONE person I have ever blocked on Lemmy was someone who posted a cartoon picture of a little kids butt on the self hosted community. I still don’t understand what that was about and I not only blocked them but reported them for that too. But other than child stuff, I probably won’t ever block anyone even if they’re complete assholes.

I’m glad you’re on here and I’m sorry you’re having to live through what you are living through.

I hope it ends as peacefully as is possible now soon.

I mean just to be clear veterinarians and animal welfare groups disagree with you and to be honest it is wrong to force an animal to follow your belief system when it isn’t a natural system for them.

They still shouldn’t have banned people talking about it though. Part of what makes group discussions so good is that you can call shit out and point out stupidity. And the ones with citations win and the ones with feelings well, get laughed at I guess. But to require it is probably not the right move.

A sane take? In this thread?

Lol, what?

“I support it if he used a shotgun but by gawd if he used a handgun he can burn in hell”

This makes no god damn sense man.

Yeah but this pretty much reinforces a two party system with virtually no hope of it ever changing.

What if I wanted to vote for a Democratic treasurer or whatever but wanted an independent state legislature that can’t happen unless I ONLY vote for ALL the independent options.

That’s a horrible, rigged system that needs thrown away and changed.

Why not an R or a D or an I next to all the runners names? Why am I locked in on one party or NOTHING? It’s crazy man

Did you guys know that when you vote for state primaries you have to choose which political party to get the choices for and you don’t see any other choices?

So this guy being independent, you would only ever get to vote for him if you picked the independent ballot and then you couldn’t vote for any of the democrats who are the only real chances to actually win against republicans and unseat them.

You get, Democratic, Republican, Independent, Green Party or Issues Only. That’s it.

Whole thing’s fucking rigged man.