• Übercomplicated@lemmy.ml
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        Literally René Descartes, arguably one of the most important mathematicians and philosophers in history, spends most of his meditations trying to prove the existence of God. Religious people can be very logical and believe in their religion for logical reasons, even if you and I disagree with those reasons.

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          believe in their religion for logical reasons

          lol. there is literally no way to use logic to infer existence of god.

          people believe in religion because they were brainwashed to it, usually at young age when they lacked the rational apparatus to resist such brainwashing.

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            to be fair, logic and inference are different things. logic helps you build structure around a given set of axioms.

            actually pure logic can be horribly unhelpful if you start with axioms that are not aligned with reality. that’s why some really smart people can believe in stupid things.

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        Surprising amount of extemely logical people go full horse shoe into believing “religion is a useful technology despite being mostly quack”. To me this is just sociopathy of a different flavor.

        • AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version)@lemmy.ca
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          I didn’t say it made him dumb, I implied that faith doesn’t flow from logic. Plus it’s a little problematic to say that our great minds were people of faith when, for much of our history, not being a person of faith could mean death. But it’s true, there were folks like Thomas Aquinas who were brilliant and more than average religious.

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            You could life and not be xealos or pious aka faithful. The past wasnt as xealot as you think it was

            Edit: i would have poikted to Leibnitz and Hum as brilliant people, especially Leibnitz, who were faithful