• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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    38 minutes ago

    There has got to be a lawsuit against this shit.

    There was a massive lawsuit for simply including IE in the install as default, and this is 100 times worse than that.

  • Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
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    12 hours ago

    Make a script that checks for it and removes it? Linux has its pains but it doesn’t have these pains.

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      10 hours ago

      almost 20 years ago I wrote a service that did this because of a hijacker. After I cleaned the system I extended it to stop all the MS bullshit that just wouldn’t stop running.

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    Unlike traditional web apps, OneDrive Photos is actually quite well built. It has a Windows 11-like Acrylic design for the context menu and does not take up a huge amount of resources, as RAM usage stays under 1GB

    Excuse me, a photo gallery that takes 1gb of RAM, especially in this economy, doesn’t seem “quite well built”.

    This fucking web app wrappers, Picasa had 100x more features while using 50x less resources

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      It’s not a “web app”. It’s a native Windows app. A photo library app that indexes every single photo so you can search them with natural language like “green shirt”, group people by facial recognition, and edit photos, using under 1GB of RAM is impressive.

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        If the “native” Windows app it’s running on a dedicated browser and coded with web tech, it’s still a web app even if it’s an .exe

        Did you know that Picasa could still group people by facial recognition in windows XP with 1 gb of ram in TOTAL? (Clarifying: 1gb to the whole system, not only a single app)

        And are you sure that the indexing is running locally? Because it’s called “onedrive photos”, not “windows photos”, so they can totally do the indexing on the cloud.

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        Is it actually doing it in-device? Given that it’s attached to OneDrive, I was rather under the impression that it was just offloading the processing to their servers.

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          Doesn’t really matter where it’s doing what. It’s displaying it all on device. It’s caching stuff on device.

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      It has almost never failed. We added 254092 ifelse statements, ensuring every possible state will be dealt with. It only fails if the user does something unexpected, like clicking too fast. Damn. That makes 254093.

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    Fun fact: Microsoft will try to guess your passwords to open and scan your encrypted archives when uploaded to OneDrive.

    Microsoft also hands your BitLocker recovery keys to the government on request.

    Microsoft also uses your local machine’s GDID to deanonymize and track you across the internet for the government.

    These are paid surveillance services Microsoft provides to the government, paid for by your tax dollars. No wonder they desperately want to force you to use OneDrive.

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      Hey now! I can honestly say Microsoft has never done that with any of my computers!

      (Why yes, they do all run Linux. How did you know?)

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        If any of your Linux machines use SystemD, then Microsoft has done that then there’s something to be aware of with those machines. SystemD has a global system ID that can be used like the Windows GDID apparently.

        Edit: not MS

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              Okay but correlate that with the same methods and usage and by the same threat actor (MS) in this case.

              Or any of the combination, as a treat

              I’m not saying it’s impossible, but it’s extremely implausible.

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                  To be fair, yeah that shit is egregious.

                  But that’s not at all what I asked you or what you claimed. Those are technically two different things. And not technically like yes or no. Those are entirely different security fronts.

                  You’ve got to back that claim up or take it back, and I have a feeling you’ll be taking it back.

                  It’s okay to be cautious, and it’s especially okay to warn others of trajectories that could lean into privacy or security issues, but it’s not okay to make shit up.

                  Lastly it’s no longer an init system. It’s a system that happens to handle init.

    • CosmoNova@lemmy.world
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      Zipping files was never enough to secure them in the cloud. It‘s always recommended to properly encrypt sensitive data properly before you upload it. Whether you use OneDrive, Google Drive, Proton drive or whatever.

      Still amazing how far Microslop goes to sniff through your stuff preemptively, though. Your cloud storage should be none of their business but sadly it‘s their entire business now. Privacy laws should definitely extend to digital space you rent no matter the circumstances.

      If cloud providers argue that‘s too dangerous then they simply shouldn‘t be in business. If a government says it‘s too dangerous then they shouldn‘t be in power. Obviously they don‘t trust in the people who voted for them. Therefore they don‘t trust democracy and are therefore fundamentally undemocratic and a danger to the people.

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        ZIP encryption can be pretty strong, as long as you use aes-256 and not zipcrypt. AES256 had been supported for ZIP files since 2003, just not in the built-in Windows zip handling.

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    There is one single app I need for freelance work that I cannot replace with a non-windows app.

    It lives in a virtual machine and is shut down for 99% of its existence.

    The machine that runs the VM is the one I use for local LLM and fucking around with docker containers. It’s an insanely powerful machine that’s slightly RAM constrained. I can run what feels like an unlimited amount of containers on it, or that fucking Windows VM. I have to kill every running container on the machine just to run one single Windows app for 10 minutes once or twice a week.

    If my freelance work paid more, I’d buy a dedicated windows machine just to do this one fucking task. (And then I’d have to air-gap it, and figure out how to remotely start it somehow, because I don’t trust Windows at all, and don’t want it running all the time.)
    Or, I guess… buy access to a windows VM online? Hm. The convenience/time/effort trade off could be worth it at certain price points.

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      this is a legit question, but why can’t you run that program through wine? does it need a windows account validation step or something or does wine simply not work for that program?

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    Just say Fuck Microslop at this point, plenty of beginner distros for Linux nowadays. Sucks for company employees that force it though. Hey CEOs I have money saving advice, Linux is free! You can even not go bankrupt to claude! lmfao.

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      15 hours ago

      Not true. You still very much have contracts with those companies be it RHEL or Ubuntu. It’s less don’t get me wrong, but not free. Like your small local shop could get away with it, but once you have regulatory oversight, things change.

  • liking625@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    this has been a thing for years, I remember having to uninstall it so many times, back when I had windows, I mean. :P

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    I dislike this article because it hides important facts until the last section: “I am in touch with Microsoft about OneDrive Photos, and my early findings suggest that it was an unintended rollout. An apology should be coming soon.

    So, this journalist/news site shames Microsoft for doing something shitty, while doing something shitty themselves.

    • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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      It was not an unintended rollout, that’s them lying to save whatever face they may have left.

      Back when I used windows, OneNote would reinstall itself like every week. I removed it, it came back. I corrupted all of it’s files, it repaired itself.

      This is just the bullshit that Microsoft does.

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      If memory serves me right. This is like the fourth unintended rollout in OneDrive history, on W11 at least. Every time our IT has to send an email to remind all staff how to disable computer wide backup and how to disable OneDrive in general. Since we don’t pay for it but MS still insist it should infect everything.

      Each of these unintended rollout costs us millions of dollars of people’s time, since our organization has hundreds of thousands of employees all over the world.

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      After how many “unintentional mishaps, woops teehee won’t do it again” can it be held against MS?

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    One drive was the final kick that made me jump to Linux. I had removed all my files from it and turned it off several times over the last few years then randomly, something like The Sims 2 will have a brand new game file and I know, One Drive stole my documents… Again.

    Well the most recent time they took all my shit and put it back in One Drive was after that update where randomly One Drive was glitching out hardcore. It deleted all my files. All the files that should not have been in there to begin with. Microsoft help basically said, too bad so sad, if you were paying for it maybe we would help you.

    I installed Mint that day. Haven’t been back.

  • unitedwithme@lemmy.today
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    So does Copilot and Microsoft Copilot 365. I enforce GPOs to ban/remove them, and every couple Windows updates, it reinstalls, and each next day I see my alerts pop up they’re back.