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    CEO: oh fuck oh fuck claude, quick make a lot of money for my airline, nothing is off the table, GO!

    Claude: well we’d want to investigate a two-pronged approach where we cut costs where possible and at the a same time, raise prices in this market.

    CEO: that sounds wonderful, please draft a press release and post it to our social media account.

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    Bad headline. They aren’t cutting costs. They’re jacking up prices.

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    Mother fucker. I felt evil doing this in roller coaster tycoon, and they weren’t even real people. Wtf…

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    Delta will use AI to discriminate against people based some secretive conditions.

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    Or if we had a functional federal government we could just make this practice completely illegal, and then pass privacy laws while we’re at it.

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    Airplane ticket pricing should be based on weight + quality of service.

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    Delta just lost me as a lifelong customer. They used to be my automatic #1 choice because they had good service for a reasonable price.

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    At least they won’t collaborate with ICE to ratfuck you against your Constitutional rights.

    Oh wait

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    But will just adding AI alone be enough? I propose we also add “blockchain”, “the cloud” and “e-commerce” to ticket pricing in order to truly synergize profit dynamics.

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      That’s thinking outside the box for low hanging fruit of the ecosystem. I want you to free some bandwidth and take the lead on this - really move the needle. Envision co-sourcing when needed and focus on the core competency required. We can circle back on a strategic fit, rightsizing strategy to avoid negative growth. Start building consensus for a results-driven best practices matrix structure.

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        Wtf is the point of that? Its the same plane, isn’t leaving any time sooner if I board earlier.

        Its not like a cruise ship where boarding an hour earlier means I can jump in pool while others are still getting on board.

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            Or your bag will go into the overhead, and you’ll be the first off the plane, especially when you have a tight connection. That 1A is getting to your next flight. That 38F is f’ed.

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          Because the overhead bins are full by the time the plane is half boarded? That’s all I got.

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    Heads up, there’s a VERY UNETHICAL service out there that works around some of the VERY GOOD AND BENEFICIAL things the airlines do. You should avoid going to it because it ROBS these poor struggling airlines of VALIDLY EARNED profits.

    Including a link so everyone can add it to their blocked sites lists. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU GO TO THIS MONEY SAVING SITE AND PARTICIPATE IN THEIR ANTI-CORPORATIST SCHEMES.
    https://skiplagged.com/

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      I use skiplagged all the time, but don’t book through their site. They add fees onto the tickets now. Just book through the airline directly.

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      I thought I read years ago that airlines responded to Skiplagged by penalizing people who didn’t complete every leg of the trip they booked. I’m not sure why they would care.

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        I used it a long time ago (like 2017) and saved me some good money, but I also did not use my skymiles account just in case.

        I felt like it got less effective at finding the types of flights like the one I took and stopped trying.

        It’s definitely a bit of a pain because you gotta book two one-way flights

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        I use Skiplagged all the time. Never noticed any penalties. A while back I started calling the airline’s customer service to let them know that I won’t make the next leg of my flight, just to be courteous so there’s no chance they’re waiting on me if everyone else is boarded early; once or twice that’s actually even resulted in a partial refund.

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        They literally will ban you for skip lagging (especially if you use any rewards type system). May save you a few bucks if you don’t use them often and don’t care, but not a great idea.

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        Rumor has it this is the case, but I haven’t found any tangible “I used this service and was punished for it” stories.

        …uh, WHICH IS TERRIBLE, BIG AIRLINES’ RIGHTS ARE BEING INFRINGED. THIS IS A MATTER OF FREEDOM TO AVOID THIS SERVICE.

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          I haven’t paid for a plane ticket since 2012. Made a huge hobby of credit card churning. Probably flew 200k miles on them. Otherwise I’d be skiplagging as the next best option.

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          What they do is cancel your entire trip. So if you don’t have flights with the same airline on the way back…eh

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            Yep, and if you have a rewards or membership number, they just will ban you. If it happens once not a big deal, couple times even, start doing it regularly though, you will get caught.

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        I thought I read years ago that airlines responded to Skiplagged by penalizing people who didn’t complete every leg of the trip they booked. I’m not sure why they would care.

        They care because the real cost of air travel is not equaled everywhere on each mile flown. If the actual costs of flying to many small regional locations was reflected in the cost of the ticket, the ticket would be so absurdly high no one would every flight to that location, and the location would lose critical flight services for the community.

        The solution many of those airlines used was to consolidate the majority of the flight into a hub using larger planes which are cheaper to operate per-passenger, and then use much smaller planes from the hub to the remote location charging the passenger the equivalent of a reasonable cost of a ticket for all hops along the way.

        What Skiplagging as doing was essentially using the subsidized discount rate provided for the small regional destinations, but consumed by those not going to those places that needed subsidies on their flights going to major hubs. So not only was the airline losing money for each passenger not paying the normal fare to the hub airport, but also showing lower passenger volume to the small regional destinations increasing the cost of flying passengers that wanted to go their even more.

        TLDR; Skiplagging screws small cities with low passenger volume risking their ability to maintain flight service at all to their towns.

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            I’m not sure I’ve ever read a more subtle or concise way to say “fuck you” to all of smaller city America simultaneously.

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              my air and weather shouldn’t have to suffer so you can keep your “small town lifestyle”, fuck your luxury bullshit founded on the externality of my life. I’m sorry but I’m sick of subsidizing these obscenely decadent parasites who would probably kill me and mount my blue stained scalp on their wall.

              I don’t mind green energy powered trains. That’s cheap, it doesn’t intrude on my life any, and gets you where you’re going fast clean safe. I’m just against flying them out on a jet.

              If they can’t manage the 200 year old technology 9f a rail link, perhaps they shouldn’t, barring extreme geography, be considered part of my society worthy of my care?

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            I get being naturally suspicious especially if we’re talking about messaging that may match some from large companies, but don’t let language that sounds that way turn off your brain to critical thinking. If you interact in a system (such as buying a ticket as an airline passenger) you can have an affect on the system. Understand your actions to personally enrich yourself may have consequences on other people just trying to fly somewhere. Don’t be blinded by big business hate to justify screwing other passengers using the airlines.

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        Airlines can take some measures, but most of them can be worked around. Don’t take checked luggage so it doesn’t end up in the wrong destination. Book one way each time because they can cancel your return trip. They can go legal on you but only if you really overdo it.

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      Thanks for the tip. We’ll see if it bares out.

      Do get the sense that these third-party sites are going to become an increased necessity, as data-scrappers and trackers try to peg the price of a flight to the credit card limit of the buyer.

      But… idk, I’m not seeing anything on this site that I can’t find by directly querying individual airlines. (Like so many other budget airline calculators) there’s no inclusion of Southwest on the list. And if the odd deal is inevitably just going to be through JetBlue anyway? Why not shop direct?

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        The third party sites will just start getting the max rate, which would effectively eliminate them. Airlines (at least in the US) aren’t making money off flights any longer anyways, it’s all off credit cards. Delta is more of a bank than an airline.

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        Sometimes, a flight that passes through the place you’re going is cheaper than a flight that ends there. Skiplagged’s real power is finding those flights for you. Much harder to do it manually.

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        I think Southwest is moving to a hub and spoke model, but historically they haven’t used it. Skip lagging seems to mostly rely on a “I want to travel to the hub, so buy a cheaper ticket to a different spoke and jump off at hub” methodology.

        Which is to say, Southwest may just not be “vulnerable” to this atm.