I think AI won’t save us here, our base is broken. The internet is kind of shattered, most of the pages on the wild have broken and even wrong links. Divs doings the work of buttons, the semantics are totally lost. This, at least for me, feels like a good view point on what we can fix first, and with luck have a better internet.
All feedback is welcome.
The thing is, a lot of websites don’t need to be interactive, or only need to present interactivity to a minority of visitors. Consider Wikipedia, for example. Only a small percentage of people visiting the site are interested in editing anything. The rest shouldn’t be burdened with massive quantities of extra downloads for a feature they don’t need, want, or use.
Furthermore, you don’t need a “modern web framework” to have an interactive site, and most of them seem to be pretty bloated.
The level of technology a site displays should be appropriate to what the site is trying to do. If your site is about services that you need an appointment for, then yes, there should be a booking setup on the site. If you’re running a store, you should have a shopping cart. Add as much of an interactive layer as is necessary to do these things, and do them well, but no more than that.
Most of us just want pages to render quickly, stop tracking us unnecessarily, and stop choking our connections and stealing our electricity for stuff that isn’t useful to us (or to anyone except depraved corporations).
Most of the interesting parts of the web are not static and you do need some scripting language to have an interactive site. Most users are on complex web apps its why people open their browsers everyday. The internet should be more than a wiki and blogs it needs complex applications and any future web proposal should be leveraging what we can do to solve problems we face not saying “just make simpler things like wiki and blogs”. Bloat is a non issue, people naturally optimize their websites to provide a good experience. Even the heaviest fattest frameworks still load nearly instantly. Bring in 50 ad providers and it still loads in a second.
Not sure if I can agree with that.
I would say that most of the internet is static by definition, even my blog is a static page with some CDN to make it faster. Most of the news pages are static, most of blogs should be static, most of the e-commerce should be static (the product page is static, not the purchase itself),
You may live in a place where internet is fast, but the majority of the world still breaths in 3G, with unstable connections and a miserable experience, so a 10mb page (I’m looking to you stupid Discord), could be a 1mb page, if wasn’t the bloat.
Most news isnt static. Its an app and its a link embedded in an app. Blogs are not popular or relevant so idk why we are even talking about them. Substack has most of the market and its not a static site.
Ecommerce could not be static without major regressions to usablity.
I do live in a place with fast internet but we are talking about future and I think its stupid to build a future web for people who have slow internet when all the trends point to increasing internet speeds and connection around the world. I’m sure Africa doesnt want to finally get online and see everything be a static site.
You can run discord off a mobile data connection, when Africa builds out their Internet infra they will prefer services like discord over low bandwidth stripped down barebones services.
the future web doesnt need to care about a 1mb page or a 10mb page. It only matters what you can do. Static site can do very little. You can’t have Lemmy as static site and Lemmy is an example of what I think future web could be. Open, interconnected, full of features and QoL. Lemmy gives you the things reddit tries to sell you.
What? Do you have any data to support that? Because I do, “blog”, or any “news” page have way more traffic that you think about it, ask Cloudflare. And they are (the good ones) mostly static. So review you own concepts. Because you are wrong.
Ask Amazon, most of their pages are static. They have island of interactivity, but the page for the product is static. So I think you have no idea what you are talking about.
Man this is racist.
I can’t even talk on this topic, and I’m disgusted by your view. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Again you are wrong. And from the level of arguments provided, there is very little we can discuss.
Ps.: The world don’t care about the future, just check the price of RAM and we can talk about performance and use less and do more.