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      And some tools are objectively worse than others. Windows 11 loses to Windows 10 in every area except for AI integration (if you can call this a loss), and security updates (which Microsoft arbitrarily stopped to force people to switch).

      If Windows 10 is a screwdriver, then Windows 11 is a butter knife glued to a 10 lb weight and a flock camera that Microsoft chained to your hand when they stole your toolbox.

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        I very much disagree on that, along with millions of others. The only advantage Win10 has over Win11 is familiarity, otherwise known as learning curve. Reliability, snap layouts, widgets, improved file explorer, plus a really awesome phone integration environment. Add on top of that constant updates and upgrades and it isn’t even a close comparison.

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          Reliability

          LOL, no. Win 11 had 3 major update issues this year alone.

          snap layouts

          99% of people just used left and right, which was already in 10, and you could already access other layouts in 10, there was just a different interface for it.

          widgets

          You’re fucking joking right? Widgets have been in windows since Vista, and no one liked them back then either.

          improved file explorer,

          Improved by turning it into an elecron app? Improved by drastically increasing the ram usage and hobbling the search performance? Improved by unpinning it from the taskbar? The new file explorer is fucking garbage, and is easily one of the dumbest and worst things about 11, right behind the new printer management UI.

          really awesome phone integration environment.

          You are genuinely the first person I’ve heard mention this, and you’ll probably be the last.

          Add on top of that constant updates and upgrades and it isn’t even a close comparison.

          See issue number 1, also, the updates only ended because Microsoft declined to continue supporting “the last version of Windows”.

          You are right that the comparison isn’t even close. 8 and 7 were closer in terms of performance and market adoption than 11 and 10.

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            I use the phone integration almost every day. I use tabs in File Explorer every time I use it. Mine is quick, not sure why yours is not.

            Win11 is by far the dominant desktop operating system at over 70%. MacOS is somewhere around 10 and Linux about 5.

            I have been using desktop operating systems since DOS 1.0. I have used every iteration of Windows except Bob. Windows 11 is easily the best version of Windows MS has produced so far. Remember the pushback on Win 10 from Win7 users? A lot of people dislike change.

            I will repeat myself, if you prefer something else, then by all means stick with that.

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              I use the phone integration almost every day. I use tabs in File Explorer every time I use it. Mine is quick, not sure why yours is not.

              I’ll repeat myself. You are little the first person I’ve heard to mention phone integration in Windows, despite the fact that it’s been in there since 8. Literally no one else gives a fuck about it. I’m sure you’ll be the last person I’ll hear mention it as a feature as well.

              Tabs in file explorer may be a slight “benefit”, but it doesn’t excuse the horrible optimization and flakyness it has from being remade as a glorified web app. The performance is absolute dogshit, and the resource usage just to view your file structure is insultingly high.

              Win11 is by far the dominant desktop operating system at over 70%.

              Actually, Windows overall is 71% of the market, and 30% of that is Windows 10, despite it being unsupported for nearly a year now. So windows 10 is STILL 21% of the total desktop/laptop market, and Windows 11 comes in at 50%. Here is the best way I can represent how fucking BAD windows 11 is. It’s the only OS new OS that Microsoft released that had a reduction in adoption rates. In July of 25, people literally uninstalled 11 and went back to 10.

              11 is objectively shit. You might be able to argue that it is better than some other shit version of Windows (8, Vista, 2000) but to argue that it is better than 10 by a wide margin is pure fucking insanity, and clear signs of stokholm syndrome as a platform.

              Remember the pushback on Win 10 from Win7

              Yeah, you know what I don’t remember… Pushback on 10 from 8 users, because 10 was objectively better.

              I will repeat myself

              No need. Everything you’ve said has been completr junk. I’ll just have to copy paste my comment to save time.

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                What I said was the truth. I really appreciate the phone integration and use it anytime I’m using my PC.

                How about this. I’ll continue to use Win11 and appreciate the benefits and you can continue to do whatever it is you’re doing.

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                  What I said was the truth.

                  No, it was your uninformed demonstrably incorrect opinion.

                  How about this. I’ll continue to use Win11 and appreciate the benefits and you can continue to do whatever it is you’re doing.

                  Yep, nothing I can do to stop you from using whatever software you like on your computer. But if you’re going to state that Windows 11 is the best OS Microsoft has ever made, I, and many others are going to point out that it is widely considered to fucking awful, and in the running to be the worst version of Windows, especially since it seems to get worse damn near every single month.