So do you earnestly think a person who did not know who Charlie Kirk was before he died has an opinion on his death that should be treated with equal weight to the people whose lives he directly or indirectly impacted, or do you disagree that the majority of people who were talking about Charlie Kirk’s death were either celebrating or trying to profit off of it?

So your official position is that everyone needs to own a gun because otherwise no one will protect them from other groups trying to hurt them.

This is the best argument I’ve heard yet against becoming an anarchist.

Right, I’m gonna let you in on a little secret.

When people say “everyone” in a context like this, they do not literally mean all 7,999,999,999 people on Earth speaking with a single unified voice. This is safe to infer because all 8 billion people having the same opinion about anything is not something that happens. They mean the majority of people, and they mean the people in their social sphere.

…So you insist that AI power use isn’t a big problem right now, but your best case scenario for the future is that humanity gets nuked out of existence. By nukes that were designed using help from LLMs, which they haven’t been shown to be able to help with.

You seem like a very serious person who is worth debating.

As for the data use thing, firstly, I don’t know why the choices are between the actual work and hearsay. I don’t know where you got those two options from. I also don’t know what would be producing the hearsay (human? LLM? If the latter, are we straight up admitting to copyright laundering? Also, I thought training LLMs on output of previous LLMs caused model collapse). I especially don’t know why you’re asking me to speculate on what creatives want immediately after attacking my ability to speak on behalf of creatives. But since you are apparently asking me to do that, I think they’d prefer the hearsay, since the point is that they don’t want the model to be able to imitate their work for anyone who asks for cheap, and in so doing, put them out of a job. Or worse, have the model agree to a job they would have said no to, and damage their credibility and brand.

Okay. I’m not sure how that excerpt proves he’s an industry plant. It sounds like he’s talking about the massive financial crater that will be left behind when the fact that zero companies in the AI sector that do not manufacture hardware are profitable catches up with them and the bubble pops, which I personally think he’s right about.

I don’t know about other industries, but I’m a programmer, and I firmly believe that people who cannot be bothered to put in the hours to learn to do so the old fashioned way, should not make software.

Vibe coding is how you get software designed by people who do not know how to design software and implemented by a chatbot that is infamous for writing buggy, insecure, impossible-to-maintain code.

Frontier level models are finding novel solutions to decades-long unsolved maths problems.

Such as?

Because if you’re talking about that recent proof of the Collatz conjecture, I’ve got bad news.

Also let me know when they figure out how to stop making stuff up, or at least to understand the difference between a sequence of tokens that represents a true fact and one that does not.

This is cool, but it is a completely different kind of AI from LLMs.

Do a little research. AI power usage isn’t that much of a problem yet.

Okay.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/pollution-musk-unpermitted-xai-power-100200381.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/epa-exempts-off-grid-ai-power-plants-from-acid-rain-program-caps-affecting-60-sites/ar-AA28YctM

https://www.fastcompany.com/91229319/ai-data-centers-could-make-your-electric-bill-go-up-by-70

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgia-power-ai-data-centers-eminent-domain/

Power usage from AI data centers has already eclipsed power usage from all other data centers combined. If you can come up with a scenario where AI hasn’t doubled in scale by 2030 by belching smoke into the atmosphere, I’ll concede the point.

A lot of really good data is copyrighted

Yeah, and that’s too fucking bad. If the people who made it don’t want it to be used for AI training (and I don’t think I’ve ever met a creator who has done the research on AI who does, even if they got paid), it shouldn’t be.

Here’s a link to the exact same post on Cory Doctorow’s (tracker-free) blog: https://pluralistic.net/2026/08/01/dare-snot/#i-will-fucking-piledrive-you-if-you-mention-ai-again

Pro tip: when copying a link to a Lemmy/Piefed/Kbin/etc post, please make sure you use your instance’s option to copy the link to the post on its original instance (the instance the post was made on), rather than simply copying the link to the post on your instance out of your URL bar. On your instance’s web interface, that option is in the More drop down next to the Boost button, just below the post title. (On a Lemmy instance, the link to the original post is the Fediverse icon right next to the upvote and downvote buttons, and you can right click and Copy Link from there).

Obviously, when you open a post in the browser on an instance that isn’t yours by clicking a link (for example, this link to this same post on my instance, which is a vanilla Lemmy instance), you can’t interact with it, because you aren’t logged in, because you don’t have an account on that instance. To interact with it, you need to open the same post through your own instance.

If you have a link to a post on the instance it was created on, you can simply paste that URL (the whole thing) into your instance’s search bar to open it on there, so you can vote/comment/etc. Some mobile apps can even do this automatically. However, this doesn’t work if you paste a link to a post through an instance other than the instance it was created on. In order to interact with the post you just linked to, people have to click the link to open the post on your instance, then click the button on there to copy the original link, before pasting it into their own instance. It’s polite not to make them go through that extra work.

Judging by your account age, it seems you’re new to Lemmy, so you probably didn’t know that. Just something to keep in mind for future. :)