• realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip
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    Where are those people whose arch installs break after every second update? I don’t think I had a single problem with arch that I wasn’t responsible for. Hell, I had more problems with mint on my girlfriends PC than the arch machines that I’m running.

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      If you don’t count my 6 years with Manjarno, I’ve used Arch for ~7 years and only 3 times I had to fix something, 2 times because of Nvidia, once my fault. I had way more problems with Ubuntu in the past than Arch by the way. :)

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      I don’t remove orphan packages, I don’t setuo snapshots, I don’t read arch news.

      I sudo pacman -Syu. And if I can’t boot I don’t do it

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    Hot take: I used arch for over a decade. It never broke unless I broke it.

    By all means, back up your files but rolling release distros aren’t made of arsenic, you’ll be fine.

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      I know people who’ve driven drunk for more than a decade, and only crashed when they were sober. Does that mean drinking and driving is safe?

      I literally had one of my devices fail to boot after an update pretty much every month, and another a few times a year. Sure, I was able to fix it with only arch-chroot, but when I switched to btrfs I didn’t need to carry around a flash drive with me when updating the system…

      The last few years I’m on nixos, and while it sometimes fails to update, it has not once failed to boot.

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        Thats’s a really bad analogy

        One endangers others while the other makes a couple of files and photos go poof

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          The danger and the stakes are not what is being compared, though. It’s a perfectly good analogy.

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      I think it’s very much dependent on your hardware.

      I had some issues with my Nvidia drivers getting messed up when the card was relatively new. I haven’t had any issues in the past two years though.

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    I’m here for a good time, not a long time

    Also, my last Arch death was due to accidentally ovverwritimg the whole drive, so no amount of split partitions is going to save me

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      They call it disk destroyer for a reason. You gotta alias that shit.

      alias dd='echo Did you triple check which device you picked? Of course not, dipshit. Check again'

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        They call it disk destroyer for a reason.

        There’s nothing specially destructive about dd. It’s just a program that opens a file, and if you tell it to open a device file and it’s got permission to write to it, it’ll write to it.

        You can just as easily overwrite a disk’s contents with anything else that will open a file and write to it.

        # cp /dev/urandom /dev/sda
        

        will wipe your drive with random data in the same way that

        # dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda
        

        will.

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          You’re technically right, but the way most people use dd ensures its like handling a loaded gun. How often do you cp /dev/sdwhy?

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          It’s not. Neither is triple checking. Notice how the alias doesn’t actually run dd? That’s on purpose.

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          I quadruple check and then I still don’t run it because I’m too nervous so I go and do something else instead and the item remains buried on my to-do list indefinitely.

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        Lol, as someone who tried a bunch of different distros, I used the dd command a lot without ever realizing what could go wrong with it. I must have used up all my luck with that though, because somehow I ended up on manjaro of all things.

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      My last Arch death was updating my 128GB laptop after a year and breaking it with partial updates. (I’m better at partial updates now) It also made me want to, move away from having separate /home partition. It was somewhat sad, since it was the Arch that I installed on the previous laptop and just moved the SSD when I got a new one

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    I remember daily driving Gentoo unstable in the early 2000’s on my rig in college. It was like trying to beat a Dark Souls boss every time I wanted to do an update.

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      In one of my university java courses, another student was frequently compiling Gentoo packages on his laptop during class.

      Once I researched more about it I also installed Gentoo on my laptop and started building updates during class 😁

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    Separate /home is such a scam. Never have I run out of home space, but boy is 27GB not enough for a root partition that runs any kind of service.

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      Use a modern filesystem like btrfs or even lvm with thin provisioning to solve that problem. Separate partitions for ease of backup, but they all pull from the same pool of storage.

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      On my PC and all my home servers I keep my root partition at 10GB and haven’t had any issues (although I keep everything that isn’t hardware related or a system utility in home).

      On my PC I crammed arch, all of KDE (+extra KDE utilities), and some other system stuff like LACT and distrobox in the 10GB root partition and run almost everything else as a flatpak installed to home.

      On my servers I do the same thing but all my services are in podman containers in /opt.

      Having all the software needed to make the machine work be isolated from my custom home junk makes me feel better, and I like that I can mount root as read-only to make it immutable

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      I think that there’s a reasonable argument for a separate home partition on a multiuser system. Means that users can’t fill up root.

      But a lot of systems aren’t multiuser these days.

      EDIT: Honestly, my biggest partitioning irritation these days is that the Debian installer makes it a pain in the rear to have a larger /boot if you’re also doing an LVM-based install; the default is unreasonably small these days.

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      Yeah i never bothered with separate /home because it feels like such a balancing act to decide on size compared to root. Especially when you use nix/guix, it would be annoying to have a small root with the store filling up over time and having to do garbage collecting often. Also, i just back up whatever files i want to make sure i don’t lose, and when i do a clean install i actually want everything to be wiped anyway, including home.

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    I always back up anything that I feel is actually important, do people actually rely on the stability of their OS?

    Not that Arch has caused me any issues whatsoever so far, going on 2 years now while very much a Linux noob.

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      Just get your snapper to run before/after any update and if you bork something, roll back. Easy peasy