• qevlarr@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Malthusianism is fascist bullshit. Who has to go? This will be used for genocide if we allow any “there’s simply too many people” narrative to subvert climate discourse.

    We can feed, clothe and shelter everyone easily and comfortably. But we can’t all have the luxuries of the most wealthy. Tough shit. That doesn’t mean poor people having children has anything to do with our situation

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      3 days ago

      No one says to kill people. We can easily do this by reducing birth rate.

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        3 days ago

        It will always be some kind of “them” who should do that, never the “us”. And what about rich people? Are they bound by the same rules or only in theory?

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          Well I don’t have kids so I’m already part of the solution. I’m already committed to being child free

          People already don’t want kids. Cause of capitalism and sexism.

          But it doesn’t hurt for people to have better access to contraceptives.

          Safe abortions.

          And to make adoption easier and more socially promoted.

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            You probably don’t want children. For people who do, this is an enormous sacrifice I wouldn’t ask of anyone. Just because of the comfort and luxury of developed nations, other people are somehow the problem. And not to mention it opens the door to fascists with specific ideas to cull the population

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              2 days ago

              When did I say we should restrict people from having kids. ?

              I offered other solutions to the problem.

              All of those solutions would be voluntary.

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                  I think you don’t understand how social services work.

                  Making contraceptives more accessible does in fact reduce pregnancy . There is a ton of research on this.

                  Secondly, making adoption more socially acceptable and easier would encourage people to adopt.

                  Cultural ideas and misconceptions about children often make people discount this adoption both as an option for persons giving up baby and potential parents who could adopt.

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                    Those are not solutions to overconsumption. There has to be some kind of limit. People have to learn they can’t exploit the planet and other people indefinitely.

                    It’s like adding more lanes to a congested highway. It provides temporary relief but none of the needed changes. Fewer people is not a solution for climate inaction at all. And it opens the door for fascists with other motives