Just blocked lemmy.ml from my Lemmy account, and I swear to god it’s one of the best things I’ve ever done on this platform. My homepage feels actually clean now.

For the past few months I’d been seeing a lot of tankie posting and pretty much far-left propaganda on my feed. It got tiring enough that I finally checked my blocked-user list, and realized pretty much everyone I’d blocked was from lemmy.ml. So I just blocked the whole instance instead.

Saying this as someone who considers themselves a leftist: I used to think Lemmy itself was an echo chamber. Turns out lemmy.ml was the problem the entire time. Probably the reason I tolerated it for so long is that I agreed with a lot of what they posted, but like an oversaturated meme, I’d had enough. Browsing the platform was starting to feel way too tiring instead of fun, which defeats the point of being here in the first place.

The breaking point was seeing some dude post a “meme” implying North Korea and China are basically communist utopias and that the West sucks. I mean, the West does suck, but come on - you’re saying North Korea is the ideal the West should strive for? What the hell…

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      I can list you a few talkpoints that repeat

      • China and russia are good places to live in and are better to be than the west because they’re “comunist”
      • Russian isn’t the agressor in the russo-ukranian war and ukrainians are nazis
      • Capitalism bad and comunism good posts dropped in comunitires dedicated to comedy but with no punchlines at all
      • Just about everything i don’t agree with is US imperialism
      • Nato bad

      It’s quite distinct from actual leftist talkpoints, like equal housing, equal rights, and universal public servives from everyone - they don’t seem to care about any of that

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      Mostly people saying socialist states aren’t literal hellscapes and have quite a lot of positives.

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    People should block users and instances that they dont want to see. They are in charge of their account. Then you wont have to feudpost about these people you blocked because you wont see them.

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      Welcome to a tutorial on how to block .ml on your personal account.

      In the top right corner of the top of the page, there are 3 horizontal white bars. Click it.

      This will open up a drop down menu. At the bottom of that menu, you will see your username. Click it.

      This will open another drop down menu with 3 options. Click “Settings”.

      At the top of your screen you will see 2 tabs. Click the one that says “Blocks”.

      Here you will see “Block user” “Block community” and “Block instance”. Click the down arrow below “Block instance”.

      This will open up a search bar. Type “lemmy.ml” and click it after it shows up. That’s it! You’ve blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance.

      But wait, we aren’t done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under “Block user”. Now type “UltraGiGaGigantic” Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.

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        But wait, we aren’t done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under “Block user”. Now type “UltraGiGaGigantic” Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.

        That is honestly a real problem, that you do not automatically block the users from an instance, when you block the entire instance.

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    I won’t block anyone even if their straight up assholes because even a broken clock is right twice a day and I actually have learned some information that was true from them.

    That being said though the ones who say North Korea is a utopia and USA is fighting a proxy war with Russia through Ukraine (true) but that Russia giving drones and military equipment to Iran isn’t the same thing and that isn’t a proxy war or that Mao was some sort hero of the people (I could definitely go on from here) those people are idiots and its very easy to look up anything they say and see that its complete bullshit.

    I’m still not gonna block them. Hit them with an “Ok” and move on with your day. As soon as you pull out the graphs or cite multiple sources they will just ban you so there’s no point in fucking with them. Until they post on here from North Korea and prove us all wrong, you can easily disregard any of the bullshit they say.

    That said the ONE person I have ever blocked on Lemmy was someone who posted a cartoon picture of a little kids butt on the self hosted community. I still don’t understand what that was about and I not only blocked them but reported them for that too. But other than child stuff, I probably won’t ever block anyone even if they’re complete assholes.

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      ones who say North Korea is a utopia

      Literally no one has ever said this. Lazy strawman.

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        Hey bud, what are these?

        https://lemmy.zip/post/67679872

        https://lemmy.zip/post/66807069

        https://lemmy.zip/post/65520813

        Verbatim “one of these is a cancer that needs cut out and the other is the DPRK”

        This is one example.

        This is why people don’t like you guys, you’re not honest with yourselves or others.

        Granted I was being a little hyperbolic but this person has actually said that North Korea is one of the best countries on earth and that everything we hear and say about it is a lie.

        I notice they never post from “best Korea” though. Hmmm

        Edit: Awww, did I hurt your feelings by proving you wrong that now you have to post under other comments of mine telling me to go back to reddit? That’s cute sweetheart. It sucks to be in a place you can’t silence people and ban them on huh?

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            Its just so hard not to with the ones like that I get great joy out of seeing the anger and them not being able to tattle to the mods to get me banned for “imperialism” so they have no choice but to tell you to go back to reddit and call you a dork and cry about it.

            I’m of course banned from their echo chamber because the cow one tried showing a chart of how there’s no hunger in North Korea and got pissed when I pointed out that the North Korean government doesn’t even provide that data publicly and that it was “not really about telling the truth” when someone picks and presents false data like that to spread a false narrative. They reported me and got me banned for “imperialism”.

            It is funny too because they let you talk riiiight up until the point where you can prove them absolutely wrong with multiple sources some even from the very government they’re fan girling over and then they immediately report and ban you and delete all the comments you made.

            Can’t have people seeing another narrative in my echo chamber!

            So when I see them out in the wild where they can’t have complete and total control over the narrative silencing any and all proof against their ludicrous claims it is just so hard to leave it alone.

            Its like “haha yeah I can share all the data and graphs I want and you can cry harder about it. Can’t delete these comments biiiiiitttttttttccccccchhhhhh”

            It is childish a little I will admit that but man I just can’t stand stupid people. Especially loud stupid people. And even more stupid people that can’t let anyone else talk without silencing them and erasing all narratives that say otherwise.

            They would definitely be down down for burning books I bet that’s the type of vibe I get from them all.

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          This is why people don’t like you guys, you’re not honest with yourselves or others.

          Literally none of those say that NK is a utopia. Once again, you’re just being unambiguously dishonest.

          Granted I was being a little hyperbolic

          Aka lying.

          actually said that North Korea is one of the best countries on earth and that everything we hear and say about it is a lie.

          “Yes I was lying before but actually [more lies]”

          Edit: Awww, did I hurt your feelings by proving you wrong that now you have to post under other comments of mine telling me to go back to reddit? That’s cute sweetheart. It sucks to be in a place you can’t silence people and ban them on huh?

          Why do you reddit dorks talk like wannabe anime villains?

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            You missed the part about where he said it was one of the greatest countries on earth? What is a utopia? A utopia is an imagined community or society that possesses highly desirable or near-perfect qualities for its residents

            Would being “one of the best countries on earth” not be saying its utopia like. Sure they didn’t say the exact phrase utopia they did say that North Korea is one of the best countries in the world though.

            Is that dishonest? Or are you just not capable of understanding things you don’t like?

            You’re an idiot who is incapable of admitting when they are wrong. And this is how all of you are over there.

            Also I don’t use reddit and haven’t in over 8 years.

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              You missed the part about where he said it was one of the greatest countries on earth? What is a utopia? A utopia is an imagined community or society that possesses highly desirable or near-perfect qualities for its residents

              So no, he didn’t call it a utopia, you’re just trying to torture the definitions of words to retroactively justify your objective lie.

              Is that dishonest? Or are you just not capable of understanding things you don’t like?

              I’m capable of not lying about things I don’t like

              You’re an idiot who is incapable of admitting when they are wrong. And this is how all of you are over there.

              📽️

              Also I don’t use reddit and haven’t in over 8 years.

              Then you should probably stop talking like a caricature of an insufferable Reddit loser.

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      Thats the correct answer. If too much stupid stuff gets past the block filters its handy just to switch to the subscribed tab.

      Of course this may not get rid of people posting tiring stuff on the subscribed instances, but block filters also seem to work for communities - honestly, thats what I mainly use as instance blocks seem too overboard. Overtly sexist or ageist instances get blocked tho.

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          That was also my initial strategy, until I had the idea of separating politics and less annoying stuff into different accounts - block lists pretty much helped with that.

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    I don’t like Russia but people supporting Russia doesn’t bother me near as much as people supporting the US/West. Yet I still haven’t blocked lemmy.world which is not only blatantly pro-west, but so heavily biased that most people legit think they aren’t, like I can tell they’re being sincere.

    And if I ever block it or any instance/community/user, I won’t make a fuss about it, I’ll merely enjoy the peace of mind of not dealing with them. I’m happy for you that you won’t have to deal with these people anymore, I’ve blocked a few communities and instances as well and I love the fact we’re able to do it, that we get some level of control over what we see on our feed as opposed to some algorithm forcing us to pay attention to stuff that hurts us. But this post is immature as fuck. Grow up.

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      Difference is people in the US are generally not defending negative US history or actions, whereas .ml/hex never admit to Russian or Chinese issues and their entire argument is “No, u suck, imperialist west” and inject it everywhere unsolicited.

      E: ah, here comes the brigade.

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        They will tell you that this is because you’re brainwashed by your evil imperialist country that it blinds you into believing that the whole world is bad like they are.

        I know its fucking ridiculous but I swear to god I have seen them say that before.

        You’re right though anyone I know from USA on here will be very quick to tell you how fucked up it is we are supporting Israel and how fucked up slavery was and how fucked up what we did to the Native Americans was

        I’ve never seen a single one of the “tankies” (that you would recognize by name for their pro NK stances and whatnot) ever admit to any wrongdoing by any of the countries they glorify. Not a single fucking one.

        The Soviet Famine, the “Arduous March”, the " great leap forward" (Mao killed the most people in history more than the Nazi Holocaust, the Stalin Famine, the arduous march, Khmer Rogue etc.) They don’t ever have anything negative to say about those things. It was all external factors, weather, and misinformation by the west!

        And that is why no one other then them and their devoted followers will ever listen to them. If they are incapable of admitting those things are wrong they are incapable of speaking the truth.

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        whereas .ml/hex never admit to Russian or Chinese issues

        Straight up lying

        entire argument is “No, u suck, imperialist west”

        Everyone, including you, recognizing that this is a completely false bad faith strawman, but it’s . world, so people will upvote it anyway.

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    My lemmy experience got soooo much better once I blocked hexbear and ml instances. Kudos to you for your peace of mind.

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    Ouch. Must have been difficult for you. Hope you feel better now when your Frontpage consists of things you can agree with. :)

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    Amen brother.

    There are a few instances where like 90% of the problematic content and users come from. Blocking them makes the fediverse FAR more enjoyable and pleasant. And reduces the harassment and violent content by 90%

    Sane leftists need to shut out the insane ones. Those folks dont’ care about politics in any actionable way. All they care about is feeling superior to everyone else based on their theoretical beliefs and their weird cult of worship they have created with facts don’t matter and alternative history is the truth.

    I’m currently debating with myself whether to block sh.itjust.works next, because it seems to be becoming another hotbed of bad actors who are here to be purely negative and hostile to other users and push extremist content, and if you counter point them they just harass the shit out of you and follow you around across various communities.

    in fact a lot of folks i blocked on other instances are now posting from that instance under the same username. seems like some folks just keep swapping instances once enough folks have blocked them on another instance for their harassment and horrible posts.

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    I wouldn’t need a “clean” front page because I don’t feel threatened by people having different opinions than me. I wish you good luck with your clean front page and clean mind. Hopefully you can find some peace now.

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      really, sounds like you shouldn’t be running an ad blocker or any of that stuff then. because you don’t need a clean internet, it’s good to view the web saturated with ads trying to sell you shit you don’t want or need.

      Also, you should only read books that you aren’t interested in or that you hate. Because what is the point of reading if you aren’t making yourself miserable while doing so?

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        Hmm interesting that you found yourself stumbling through so many logical fallacies in order to craft an argument. Are the tankies trying to sell you something?

        Yes, you should probably read books that are outside of your confort zone.

        If you hate people from .ml or they make you feel uncomfortable or upset, yea go ahead block them. You’re both the one with the problem and the one who has the tools to solve the problem. So go ahead and make things really clean for yourself. I don’t want you to catch any cooties.

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          I hate bullies, yeah. Your entire post here is typical .ml user trope.

          Call something a logical fallacy, posture yourself as superior, then insult the user and try to goad them into a name-calling, so you can play the victim.

          It’s proverbial crybully behaviour. please also include a DM about how you are going to beat me up, while you’re at it. because threatening people is very logical and aware and I should be glad to be beaten by you.

          Because you know, we just need to re-educate the population in physical labor camps, and THEN they will finally understnad the glory of marxism leninism and the freedom it will bring to everyone!

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            It was a logical fallacy lol. If you think I was posturing as superior, that’s a feeling that came from within your heart.

            You can’t just spit out nonsense and act like you made a good point. If you feel that our interaction is similar to how you interact with users from .ml, it’s likely that you are just someone who gets deep into conflict with other users very easily and is constantly making bad faith arguments in an attempt to “win” the internet.

            No is fucking cyberbullying you lmao. I am not an .ml user and don’t have an agenda. No one had threatened anyone. This is actually hilarious. You can’t accuse people of pointing out that you argue with logical fallacies, and then go on this entire straw-man rant about how you’re being threatened and bullied. That literally didn’t happen. Nothing like that happened.

            Even more hilarious that you are saying that I am trying to make myself a victim, and then accusing me of threatening you and cyberbullying you. You can’t make this stuff up. lol.

            You don’t hate bullies, you hate it when people you are trying to bully with bad faith arguments argue back.

            Looking at your profile, you are currently engaged in like 6 different bad faith arguments with other users. You literally cannot interact with people in any way other than getting into negative interactions with them. You must feel absolutely exhausted. You think you’re fighting some sort of holy war against the communists? Go ride a fucking bike or go for a walk or something. Geez. lol. Social media seems to have scrambled your mind, consumed by negativity. You are bullying yourself.

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    Damn, it’s been awhile since I’ve seen one of these “greetings fellow leftists” posts whining about .ml.

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      It says a lot how these always stay up but not the ones people post with actual complaints or issues.

      But say ml bad and boom

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    It sure would be swell if people could, at the very least, elevate to a 2d view of politics. Hearing the majority of quadrants II, III, and IV all referred to all “far-left” is confusing at best.

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      To be fair, the quadrant system is also bullshit. Authority isn’t a sliding scale, it depends on which class controls the authority of the state and is therefore either the beneficiary of or victim of authority.

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      it’s not even 2d, it’s 1d. everyone who isn’t me is bad and wrong. many folks here are are straight up solipsistic.

      and you aren’t going to elevate anyone like that. they have to take their own head out of their own ass, which is possible, but more likely to be triggered by real life experiences and trauma than internet posts.

      of course that’s also not necessary they will ever get better, they often get worse. i have had friends have a traumatic life experience an just shove their head further up their ass even more than it was before. especially during covid.

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      That’s because adding a 2nd axis does almost nothing to mitigate how insanely reductionist political spectrums are. People are not that simple x1,000,000,000.

      Nothing wrong with building models with limitations but one cannot test the political compass to measure how reliable it is at predicting future results.

      As such I genuinely think the frustration you’re experiencing is because the people who relate to it the most tend to view people over simplistically, usually because they can’t empathize with any human experience that isn’t theirs. Aka conservatives.

      Like me as a progressive can empathize with my conservative family that’s never been exposed to trans people and only fed anti-trans bs. But flip the script and they cannot fathom why I don’t go to church or vote conservative like a good christian. I know because they’ve told me.

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        2nd axis does almost nothing

        In 1d about 2/3 of the political spectrum is being called the same thing. Elevating political discourse to where we are not calling tankies and social libertarians the same thing seems like more than “almost nothing” to me.