Just blocked lemmy.ml from my Lemmy account, and I swear to god it’s one of the best things I’ve ever done on this platform. My homepage feels actually clean now.

For the past few months I’d been seeing a lot of tankie posting and pretty much far-left propaganda on my feed. It got tiring enough that I finally checked my blocked-user list, and realized pretty much everyone I’d blocked was from lemmy.ml. So I just blocked the whole instance instead.

Saying this as someone who considers themselves a leftist: I used to think Lemmy itself was an echo chamber. Turns out lemmy.ml was the problem the entire time. Probably the reason I tolerated it for so long is that I agreed with a lot of what they posted, but like an oversaturated meme, I’d had enough. Browsing the platform was starting to feel way too tiring instead of fun, which defeats the point of being here in the first place.

The breaking point was seeing some dude post a “meme” implying North Korea and China are basically communist utopias and that the West sucks. I mean, the West does suck, but come on - you’re saying North Korea is the ideal the West should strive for? What the hell…

  • Jake Farm@sopuli.xyz
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    3 days ago

    Having mindless tankies parrot ccp and russian propaganda is getting tiring.

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        Yeah they are tiring too and they are destroying the country with their blind idolitry.

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          I was mostly making fun of tankies’ only argument being that capitalists do something bad too so it’s OK to do it themselves

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          No, we loathe that you’re reducing the problem to “this administration”. I actually love this administration for the fact that it has dropped the facade and I can finally talk about US imperialism showing how cruel it has ever been.

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          Try talking about Nato expansion and see how far you get.

          The government doesn’t care if you hate it as long as you confirm the narrative with your hate.

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            What expansion?

            The latest new members of NATO after many years have applied because Russia invaded ukraine, a non-NATO country.

            If there weren’t countries invading other ones, no one would need to join NATO, as it is a defensive alliance.

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              NATO is as defensive as the IDF is. It’s a gang of imperialist countries protecting each other from the imperial boomerang, and will constantly invent new enemies to justify its own existence.

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                Yeah. A defensive alliance is totally the same as a military that is currently committing a genocide for the purpose of territorial expansion.

                And Russia is totally an invented enemy that is not currently in a war with the purpose of territorial expansion.

                Oh wait, what is actually similar to the IDF is Russia! Who would have thought?

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                  NATO countries aid and assist with genocide. The purpose of NATO is to defend the collective interests of the world’s imperialist countries from anti-colonial and socialist backlash

                  Russia’s territorial expansion was provoked by the endless encirclement and expansion of NATO, with the refusal of Russian admission to NATO to protect it. When imperialist countries encircle you and refuse to let you join so as to protect yourself, it’s only reasonable to expect that one day said encircled country will lash out. The entire war was preventable even up to 2022.

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                    Ah I read the “.ml”, but not the username. It doesn’t make sense for me to continue to argue. You’re deep into the Russian propaganda pool.

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              What expansion?

              Russia says that they were promised no Nato expansion in Eastern Europe like there was a commitment to no Nato troops in East Germany.

              If there weren’t countries invading other ones, no one would need to join NATO, as it is a defensive alliance.

              How can countries protect themselves if they are attacked by Nato or Nato countries?

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                It’s the right of every country to join military alliances as they want. And some promise back in the early 90s is totally nothing binding that is valid when one country is actively attacking its neighbors. Every neighbor state will then try to get into an alliance against such aggression.

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                They can defend themselves the same way as if any other country attacked them.

                NATO doesn’t protect you if you start an offensive war. It only protects you if you’ve been attacked first.

                There’s no better example than the epstein-US-Iran war. Trump keeps whining that his “NATO allies” are not helping him. Iran right now can attack the US as much as it can, since the US started the war for no fucking reason.

                Some individual countries that are part of NATO have helped the US, but that was independently of NATO.

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                  The US are using the bases of their Nato partners for Iran. It’s not a Nato mission in name but that doesn’t matter to Iran. If Ukraine gets Nato bases with fighter jets and midrange missiles then it doesn’t help Russia if Nato doesn’t attack but only the USA from bases in Ukraine.

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                    The US are using its bases in allied countries to attack Iran. It is not named a NATO mission because it isn’t. The NATO alliance does not require it’s members to let the US use the military bases in their countries.

                    For example, Spain, a member of NATO, did not allow the US to use the military bases located in Spain to attack Iran.

                    The US has many allies. Some in NATO, and some outside NATO. Even if the US exited NATO, it could still use the bases in allied countries.

                    It does matter to Iran if it is a NATO mission or not. Because since it is not, it doesn’t have to fight against the entirety of NATO.

                    The US cannot use military bases it does not own or in foreign territory without permission. If there were “NATO military bases” in Ukraine, It would need the permission of NATO and Ukraine to use such base. NATO would presumably not grant permission to use it for an offensive war, as it is a defensive alliance.

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          current

          Yeah, that’s the problem, the opposition to American imperialism only goes as far as “orange man bad”

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            Americans think Trump is a mistake when he’s the truest reflection of the American soul there ever was!

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      No! It isn’t propaganda! You’re the one who is parroting propaganda!

      Saying russia and china are dictatorships and stuff, i saw a post on VK that said exactly the contrary! And it must be true!

      Xi Jinping said he cares about free speech, he can’t lie, only western politicians lie!

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      their doomer, pseudo intellectual main course with a dessert of populist fantasy crap is depressing

      at least their radicalization stuff was kinda spicy but it’s an addictive combo to melt your brain into the cult

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        I don’t think Russian intelligence would waste their time on a platform as small as Lemmy. They’ve propagandized enough people that it’s simply self-perpetuating here. The tankies are still exposed to other outlets where they’d see Russian propaganda and repeat it here.

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        The amount of downvotes i received in a thread maxing out at below +150 votes makes me even more sure about lemmy.ml’s substantial FSB involvement.

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        I heard that Putin even personally licks the stamps on the checks we get mailed every month for posting

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          If I actually got paid for every time I’ve been accused of being part of or paid by the CPC, I’d have no purpose in organizing IRL beyond my own moral obligation to do what’s right, lmao.

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        Extremism etc has broad appeal to disenfranchised people of a certain maturity level with an absence of critical thinking skills.

        IMO one of the things that’s ruining the internet currently is all the young people who don’t know shit about fuck and are completely unaware of it. Blind leading the blind shit. Sometimes you just gotta walk away cuz EoD it’s literal children talking amongst themselves.

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          I think it’s a combination. There are accounts which run classic FSB style; series of innocuous posts and then ZELENSKY IS A NAZI, then innocuous posts.

          Meanwhile, ignorant dumb kids who have been dealt a rough hand with covid, housing prices, ai, trump, climate change etc are pretty susceptible to the dumbest but most appealing simple answers/boogymen.

          Add in the Internet’s ability to help you avoid ever encountering an opinion with which you disagree and you’ve got a very toxic breeding ground for the worst and dumbest ideas.

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            Let’s not forget the 15-year-old nihilistic edgelords who, for a change, aren’t outright Nazis, if only for the reason because there were so many nihilistic outright Nazi edgelords and Wehraboos out there that it had become too mainstream. Also, they read somewhere that the Red Army destroyed the Wehrmacht which automatically makes the Soviet Union superior to the Third Reich. So they went full Stalinist instead.

            There must be at least some who have found their way from WoT to Reddit and from there to Lemmy.

            At least those who used to run in Tumblr’s “more leftist than thou” rat race that apparently suggested that being enby is more leftist than being trans to such a degree that trans isn’t leftist enough are usually too feeble to go full Tankie and support genocides if committed in the name of communism.

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              Let’s not forget the 15-year-old nihilistic edgelords

              Lord knows they won’t let us forget them lmao

              But yea accelerationists are always children or very broken people. Misery loves company.

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          In my day we used to know fuck all about shit. But kids these days…

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            That’s kind of what I’m getting at by turning the phrase around. Like teenagers have always been dumb. It’s part of the learning process.

            But todays kids have been deprived that fuckery and so they literally don’t know shit about it. Than their reality is whatever first impression tik tok gives them about anything.

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          all the young people who don’t know shit about fuck

          I’m so using this from now on. Hope you don’t mind.

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          really? dump a bucket full of leeches, spiders and biohazard waste down there next time with a dedication from me, please!